{"id":480,"date":"2025-09-15T18:21:04","date_gmt":"2025-09-15T10:21:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ndnlab.com\/?p=480"},"modified":"2025-11-09T04:37:29","modified_gmt":"2025-11-08T20:37:29","slug":"bytescale-communication-efficient-scaling-of-llm-training-with-a-2048k-context-length-on-16384-gpus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ndnlab.com\/?p=480","title":{"rendered":"ByteScale: Communication-Efficient Scaling of LLM Training with a 2048K Context Length on 16384 GPUs"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>Hao Ge (Peking University); Junda Feng, Qi Huang (ByteDance Inc.); Fangcheng Fu (Shanghai Jiao Tong University); Xiaonan Nie, Lei Zuo, Haibin Lin (ByteDance Inc.); Bin Cui (Peking University); Xin Liu (ByteDance Inc.)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/dl.acm.org\/doi\/10.1145\/3718958.3754352\">ByteScale: Communication-Efficient Scaling of LLM Training with a 2048K Context Length on 16384 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